What’s it like to have a movie made from your book?

April 3rd, 2018

The following is an interview with author Karen Cushman about the 1999 movie-making experience of The Ballad of Lucy Whipple, starring Glenn Close, Robert Pastorelli, and Meat Loaf, as well as Jena Malone, who played California “Lucy” Whipple.

Be sure to view the photos at the end of this interview.

The Ballad of Lucy Whipple

We recently watched The Ballad of Lucy Whipple on The Hallmark Channel. Having read the book, this felt like a fairly faithful retelling of the movie. We feel very lucky that you’ve agreed to let us ask you about your part in the making of this made-for-television movie.

Q: Glenn Close and Craig Anderson are the executive producers of this movie. You are listed as co- producer. How did you get that title?

A: It was in the contract. I assume my agent handled that. A few years ago, I saw a movie whose title I forget staring Tim Robbins , I think, about making a movie. The one scene I remember, for obvious reasons, was something about defining an assistant or co-producer as a title the producer gives to his girlfriend to keep her happy and out of the way. So that was my job—be happy and out of the way.

Q: What is the job description of a co-producer?

A: I read that associate producer or co-producer credits often go to someone who performs a key function in getting the movie made, but who doesn’t have the power or clout of a producer or executive producer. In my case, it was writing the book. After that, nothing.

Q: Who approached you about making a movie from your book?

A: Glenn Close’s people contacted my people—i.e., the film and TV agent at Curtis Brown.

Q: Did you hesitate before agreeing to have a movie made about Lucy and her family?

A:  Not a bit. I admired Glenn Close and trusted her to do a good job. And I was excited to see the story played out on the screen.

Q: Did you play a part in writing the script for the movie? You are given a writing credit for the novel. Christopher Lofton is listed as the writer of the teleplay. (You may remember Christopher Lofton as the original Dr. Jeff Martin on All My Children. He is also listed as a producer of The Ballad of Lucy Whipple. Mr. Lofton passed away in 2002.)

A: No. I was asked if I wanted to write the script but I knew (and still know) nothing about writing screen plays and didn’t want to stop writing and learn. I didn’t know enough about writing novels yet. Still don’t.

Q: Did you have approval on the script?

A:  I had script approval but never saw a script. I never asked for it or pushed for it. I was busy writing another book probably.

Q: Did you have any say in the casting of the movie?

A: No, but I was pleasantly surprised with the casting. I recognized many of the names, and I loved Glenn Close as Arvella Whipple. She had the strength and determination and stubbornness the character called for.

Q: Did you visit the set while they were filming the movie?

A:  I did. They called and said We’re in Park City, Utah, in our last week of filming, and thought you’d like to see Lucky Diggins before we burn it down. I sure did. Unfortunately I had recently had surgery on my face (another story) and I was uncomfortable with the scars and how I looked. Phil and I went anyway, and it was great. People were very warm and friendly. I saw many, many takes of each scene—movie making is incredibly boring. What I loved most was the set decoration—the town, the boarding tent, the donkeys. The general store was amazing. Even the shelves and drawers were filled with appropriate objects. We didn’t stay to see it all burned down, but I was told later that everyone cried.

Q: Did you meet any of the actors in the movie?

A: Before filming started, I was flown to Los Angeles to meet Glenn Close. She’s a lovely, down to earth woman, and I liked her immediately. In Utah, I met them all, hung around with some, and hated leaving them when my time was up.

Q: Was there a special celebration when the movie was finished or when the movie was premiered? Did you attend?

A: It was a CBS movie of the week on television so there was no premiere. I can’t remember if Philip and I saw it on TV or on the videotape they sent me. We definitely celebrated.

Q: Were there differences between your book and the script?

A: There were some. They added the lawyer who commits suicide at the beginning, the intimations of sexual abuse, the woman miner disguised as a man, and Lucy’s judicial prowess. I would have argued against those decisions if I had known (and if I had any power).

Q: Were you pleased with the finished movie?

A: On the whole, yes, The actors were good, the sets were fabulous, and it was pretty true to Lucy’s story. I got to have dinner with Glenn Close and sit in Meat Loaf’s chair! What’s not to like?

Watch the movie on Hallmark Now.

Philip and I arrive at Lucky Diggins, July 1999. It was only a month after my surgery and I was very self-conscious about my scars.

Lucky Diggins

Lucky Diggins, the boarding tent. The sets were amazingly detailed and complete, down to tools and laundry on the line.

Lucky Diggins boarding house

The boarding tent and a boarder. The costumes were splendid—very miner-like.

The miners’ camp and privy.

The miners’ camp and privy.

Philip admiring The General Store.

Philip admiring The General Store.

It’s the Wild West.

It’s the Wild West.

My friend, the donkey

My friend, the donkey—or mule. I never asked. He was friendly (for a donkey) and very dusty when I petted him.

Glenn Close as Arvella Whipple

Glenn Close as Arvella Whipple. Perfect casting.

Robert Pastorelli

Robert Pastorelli (Rev. Clyde Claymore) with Glenn Close. I understand they started dating after the movie wrapped. I remembered Robert Pastorelli as Eldin, the painter, on Murphy Brown and I was starstruck.

Jena Malone turning into Lucy Whipple.

Jena Malone turning into Lucy Whipple.

There’s Meat Loaf’s chair! I sat in it!

There’s Meat Loaf’s chair! I sat in it!

Buck McPhee, Judy Gold

Hanging out with Buck McPhee (Judy Gold). Judy is a stand-up comedian and a lot of fun to be with.

Arvella and the miners

Arvella and the miners, Philip and me, on the steps of the General Store.

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